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Pinning Test Prop + Npp using Slin Needle

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Hi,

I was wandering is it possible to pin NPP + Test Prop using slin needles? I know quite a few big lads who use slin needles for ED jabs but not quite sure how effective this is? Any ideas?
 
depend how thin the gear is mate, i used to back fill slin pins when doing ed shots with tren, i used quads for shots were the skin seems thinest
 
is there any disadvantage in doing SubQ then IM?
 
is there any disadvantage in doing SubQ then IM?

Well it depends on who you speak to.

I SQ Test twice a week and have not received any problems from this, my serum testosterone levels are stable according to my regular bloods and I've not noticed any negatives from SQ administration.

However I believe a few lads on UKM have had problems with this route in the form of 'lumps'.

It's interesting to note that Canadian studies have show that Test administered SQ provides a more stable serum level than IM introduction.
 
Fine mate I used slin pins in bi's, tri's and delts to jab test and tren. Wouldn't do sub-q though, I had to drain about 3ml of blood and puss out of my stomach after it turned into an abscess.
 
Fine mate I used slin pins in bi's, tri's and delts to jab test and tren. Wouldn't do sub-q though, I had to drain about 3ml of blood and puss out of my stomach after it turned into an abscess.

You swabbing the area?
 
You swabbing the area?
Yeah always swab, except when doing peptides (never had any problems with those jabbing 3x a day for the past 7 months) I'd done it sub-q a few times previously and it always left lumps, I tried not massaging the injection site after as recommended and a lump formed and took about a week to disperse, same happened when I did massage too.

But that one time the lump kept getting bigger and was still there about 2 weeks after, so I stuck a green pin in and drained the **** out, then it went. Didn't have any problems with IM jabs and I always make sure everything is kept sterile. I think the problem is due to the fact the oil is too thick to disperse through the fat, and lack of blood flow, hence a sterile abscess forms and leaves these "lumps". I've seen a few people have the same problem.
 
i wouldnt shoot subq with oil based stuff.

I have no problems putting half ml of test p/ eq/test e in each bicep with a slin pin. i actually get the 5/8 orange needles and use those
 
If i was to use AAS id use 1ml slin pins in my quads i hear people do this with no problems.
 
i wouldnt shoot subq with oil based stuff.

Why is this mate? I only ask as if you have some research against SQ of oil based products I would be interested in reading it as I follow this protocol. :)
 
Why is this mate? I only ask as if you have some research against SQ of oil based products I would be interested in reading it as I follow this protocol. :)

No research mate just anecdotal. Know of 2 or 3 people who have had major issues - had to get lumps cut out etc
 
No research mate just anecdotal. Know of 2 or 3 people who have had major issues - had to get lumps cut out etc


You may be interested to read this short abstract taken from a paper:

STABLE TESTOSTERONE LEVELS ACHIEVED
WITH SUBCUTANEOUS TESTOSTERONE
INJECTIONS
M.B. Greenspan, C.M. Chang
Division of Urology, Department of Surgery, McMaster University,
Hamilton, ON, Canada
Objectives: The preferred technique of androgen replacement
has been intramuscular (IM) testosterone, but wide
variations in testosterone levels are often seen. Subcutaneous
(SC) testosterone injection is a novel approach; however,
its physiological effects are unclear. We therefore investigated
the sustainability of stable testosterone levels using
SC therapy. Patients and methods: Between May and
September 2005, we conducted a small pilot study involving
10 male patients with symptomatic late-onset hypogonadism.
Every patient had been stable on TE 200 mg IM for
41 year. Patients were instructed to self-inject with
testosterone enanthate (TE) 100 mg SC (DELATESTRYL
200 mg/cc, Theramed Corp, Canada) into the anterior
abdomen once weekly. Some patients were down-titrated
to 50 mg based on their total testosterone (T) at 4 weeks.
Informed consent was obtained as SC testosterone administration
is not officially approved by Health Canada. T
levels were measured before and 24 hours after injection
during weeks 1, 2, 3, and 4, and 96 hours after injection
in week 6 and 8. At week 12, PSA, CBC, and T levels
were measured however; the week 12 data are still being
collected. Results: Prior to initiation of SC therapy, T
was 19.14+3.48 nmol/l, hemoglobin 15.8+1.3 g/dl, hematocrit
0.47+0.02, and PSA 1.05+0.65 ng/ml. During
the first 4 weeks, there was a steady increase in
pre-injection T from 19.14+3.48 to 23.89+9.15 nmol/l
(p�0.1). However, after 8 weeks the post-injection T
(25.77+7.67 nmol/l) remained similar to that of week 1
(27.46+12.91 nmol/l). Patients tolerated this therapy with
no adverse effects. Conclusions: A once-week SC injection
of 50�100 mg of TE appears to achieve sustainable and
stable levels of physiological T. This technique offers
fewer physician visits and the use of smaller quantity of
medication, thus lower costs. However, the long term
clinical and physiological effects of this therapy need further
evaluation.
 
Have seen it or very similar posted on another board and have no issues believe it at all. My main worry is that trying to find decent/real pharma grear is hard enough never mind ugl and like i said to many people have reported major issues from doing it for me its just not worth the risk.
 
I've tried Subq & got the dreaded welt/lump.

I think it's got allot to do with the brand of gear though.
I tried Lixus Test-e 300.Fine in quads not so sub-q or in Bis for me.
I feel ProChem/Sciroxx would be a different story though as they are silky smooth without PIP for me
 
Have seen it or very similar posted on another board and have no issues believe it at all. My main worry is that trying to find decent/real pharma grear is hard enough never mind ugl and like i said to many people have reported major issues from doing it for me its just not worth the risk.

Totally agree mate, all studies have been with pharma products. :)
 
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